It was ca 1914 the last so-called Lyme litter was born and this copy - here above - of Mr George Cook’ kennel book may give the perception that one or even more Lyme litters came from well-known show Mastiff stock as a/o the Clevelands of Mr Cook – Middlesbrough. The copy shows three missed stud services dd ca 1910 by his Cleveland Leopold - see at left -, the one who sired the celebrated champion pair Brompton Duke & sis B- Duchess. The left one is of particular interest as it goes about a brood called Duchess owned by Lord Newton, aka Thomas Wodehouse Legh - 2nd Baron Newton 1857–42, addressed Newton-le-Willows where the Legh family, of Lyme Hall, owned a country house called ‘Newton Hall’ – see at right - since 1660. Lord Newton’ land agent was Mr Arthur Cecil Leslie, son of Mr John Leslie of Brook Lodge Albury – Surrey, and the occupant of Newton Hall between 1881-13 was Mr Robert Hood Wright 1847-34 of the Selwood prefix who bred &/or owned Deerhounds, Bull-terriers (his first fancy), Bloodhounds, Irish Wolfhounds, Great Danes, Borzois, and others. - See also Miscellanea One No 24.

Group photograph dd early XX c presenting an old Mastiff owned by Mr George Bethel Bayley of 10 Elgin road Croydon annex his dog licence dd '06 for keeping one dog at the sum of 7 shillings in a period the Mastiff breed became quite rare. - One of London’ prestigious photographic firms was Negretti & Zambra located at the Holborn viaduct [within easy reach of Mr WK Taunton’ city residence at Hatton Garden]; they once had the ‘exclusive rights’ of any kind of photography at the Crystal Palace annex grounds, a/o during the OEMC show August 1890 when the son of Dr Richard Derby, Secretary of the American Mastiff Club, was forbidden to take private pictures of the Mastiffs entered… - Mr George Bethel Bayley ’53-31 was a Tariff Reformer, member of the Board of Trade Departmental Committee on Railway Superannuation, and author of the book 'Seamen of the Downs' with the immediate object endowing a bed in the Victoria (War Memorial) Hospital at Deal for the use of the lifeboatmen of Kent.

Mr Morris Kinney’ father Mr Francis Sherwood K- and his younger brother Abbot K- had founded Kinney Brothers Tobacco Company, one of the leading cigarette manufacturers in the late XIX century. Eventually they merged their company with others into the ‘Tobacco trust‘ organized by MrJames Buchanan Duke. Departing for Paris to-night, Mr Morris Kinney '91-45 said he had bought seven dogs, a/o ch British Monarch, at the price of $5.000, a princely fortune given the average household was supported on less than $500 per year.


Mr Morris Kinney’ Lidgett Marquis b Oct ’09 & bred by Mr R J Burch - out of ch Sam’ Sweetheart ex Mellnotte’ son Salisbury - got in ’12 a 3rd Open prize at the LKA London preceded by Lt-Col Z Walker’ ch Lord of the Manor. Mr Kinney’ Bullwell Queen may refer to Mr Archibald Brookes, of Strelley Street Bullwell nr Nottingham, who bred Captain George Harrison Ballantyne' King Lear b Sept ‘10 and tracing back to the Cleveland stock of Mr George Cook of Middlesbrough, namely - out of ch Felix’ paternal niece Marton Princess Thelma sired by Bullwell Boy -, the latter out of Countess unr ex ch Felix’ paternal half brother Lord Byron.

At left - A postcard - provenance Cardiff Wales but w/out any data; arguably a quite typical male of the late XIX or early XX c. - At right - Aesop’ fable called 'The Dog and the Shadow’ - 'It happened that a dog had found a piece of meat and was carrying it home in his mouth to eat it in peace. On his way back to his home, he occasioned to cross a wooden plank lying across a fast-running brook. As he crossed the plank, he looked down and saw his own shadow reflected in the burbling water beneath. Thinking it was another dog with another piece of meat, he made up his mind to have that piece too. So, he made a snap at the shadow in the water, but as he opened his mouth the piece of meat fell out, dropped into the water, and was promptly swept away and never again seen. Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.' -


Quote - Don’t let slip the things you have that are real and substantive in the pursuit of the ephemeral, the prospective, or the offhandedly promised. This is not to say you should not be willing to set it all aside and go after something bigger or something better. But make sure you do it intelligently, and be aware of what you’re giving up, or might be giving up, when you do so, so you can make the best and most informed decision about which path to trod. – Chase.

Fanciers Journal March 15 1890 Specialty Clubs and Us - Beneficial Effects by R F Mayhew.


'The next Specialty which deserves attention is known as the Old English Mastiff Club, whose beneticial effects are not only a matter of ancient history, but are as famed as the laws of the Medes and Persians. To be fair and lionest— the undisputed aim of every ‘knight of the pen'— their lavish distribution of 'challenge cups’ and the practical advantages extended by them to breeders should undoubtedly have established that improvement which is so conspicuous by its absence. Mr Wynn, I know, declares the breed has improved, but he is the undoubted founder of the ‘extremists’. Unlike the Fox Terrier men of the same ilk, he advocated ‘head, nothing but head', and had it not been for him, neither Rajah's nor Taurus' name would have become so renowned.

On the other hand equally well-known men, such as Mr Nichols, the late Mr Walsh, and probably I, (this is mere premise) Mr. Edgar Hanbury declare to the contrary, and as for the proprietor of the only pure l.yme Hall, were he to scan the present lumps of indolence, a prayer for their total anuihilation would be uttered with such ardent fervor that the gods would be compelled to accede. When one looks back to the past representatives of this breed, regret with many ... If not only on account of the transposition of the present Mastiffs, but also for the many faces which no longer appear on the scenes of competition.


I don't know whether it is because Mastiffs were the first breed to inspire the canine mania in my dyspeptic person, or because my first associations of dog shows necessitated my mixing in their circles; nevertheless, it seems to me that shows of to-day and exhibitors of this variety are not the jovial camaraderie of days gone by. In those days when Mr Sam Hardley, the Rev Pearce, that prince of ‘cranks' Mr Kingdon, and the Messrs Hanbury and Garnier associated in the ring, there appeared to be more vigorous keenness amongst competitors as to the result. Now the few exhibitors walk around in a desultory sort of way, with their inanimate and obese constructions ‘crawling’ in their wake. It has previously been written that mastiffs as well as other big dogs were especially intended for the companionship and protection of the lower biped man . A dog to accompany his master anywhere and everywhere, whether for a thirty miles' gallop or a ten mile so-as-you please ; a dog that should combine the strength of a Samson with the activity of a ‘Taglioni', and twenty years ago these existed, but now— perish such thoughts, thanks to the kind interference of the 'extremist'. instead of the benevolent but resolute expression portrayed some time back, he (the extremist, specialist, or whatever one likes to call him) has given us a vacant, sour, dull, surly cast of countenance, which has become positively repulsive.


For the eye which was brimful of fearless boldness, undying faith, love and unfathomable intelligence, the polished culturist has considered a primrosey yellow, or a resinous hue of the same color far more preferable, and no doubt in the opinion of Mr Oscar Wilde and his followers, this is a distinct advantage. It is not only the ‘daffodillery yallorey’ orb which greets one at a show I complain of but the glassy inanimate stare accompanying it. Yellow is undoubtedly a desirable color in some animals, but I do not think it conducive to that look of resolute intelligence requisite in the Mastiff. Yellow is also associated with all complications arising from the liver, but it cannot be that the Mastiff of to-day has been suffering from chronic disease of that organ ; if so there are several remedies to check the malady, for has not Mr Carter with his lilliputian pills, and Mr Heecham with his Shakespearean discoveries, reduced this complaint to a minimum. Better still, why shouldn't the 'O. E. M. C.' start a ‘pate du foiegras' company? If this were done the aims of the extremists would not have been in vain nor would the constitution of the 'O. E. M. C.' have been such a failure.

With regard to forelegs, or the front part generally of this species, I think the preference remains with the early representatives, for sprawling feet and weak pasterns are much more conspicuous now than in the past. Muzzles and heads should undoubtedly have been mentioned before, as these are the properties of which the Mastiff is composed, if the extremists' aims are to be considered. That the muzzle should be short, square and blunt, is, I believe, the authentic direction laid down in all descriptions of the breed; but at the present time the question arises how short, how square and how blunt is this said muzzle to be ? Is the squareness, shortness and bluntness to put to shame all our Rustic Kings, Rustic Models, Britomartises, Pathfinders, Bedgebury Lions*, etc.? or is it to define distinction between a long pointed houndy property of that ilk, and a proportionate, substantial, powerful and deep one ? This is the question, and it seems to me the ‘specialist’ in studying this property has become so enraptured with it that he has been unable to extend his research beyond to the limits of the skull. Here his task has ended, a slight transposition of the old saying being, I think, very applicable to his case, viz., ‘every man for head and the devil takes the hind part'. - At right - Bedgebury Lion * b Aug '88 owned by Mr Philip B Beresford Hope of Bedgebury Park Goudhurst Kent.

If one takes the heads of individuals both past and present (I am not in the position to criticise ‘Ansdell’ Leo, Lukey' Governor, etc, but must be content to commence at the time of Field' King, the muzzles are certainly shorter now than they were formerly, many specimens of the present having that supercillious upward tendency which is probably the outcome of an imaginary superiorily; still in spite of this self-possessed expression of pre-eminence, my love is with the older representatives, nor do I think any animal has yet surpassed Granby in grandness of expression, deepness and bluntness of muzzle, and proportionate expanse of skull. Perhaps youthful impetuosity may to some extent have prejudiced my ideas, but I still have a feeling that could I own the Mastiffs of my choice. I would select Granby, Wolsey, and the three bitches Mr Hanbury once showed together, viz, Queen, Hebe and Herpa. Granby has always impressed me as one of the best Mastiffs I ever saw.


I may be wrong, but as his image rises before me, I see a grand square-headed dog, with the most benevolent expression, exceedingly tall- in fact, as tall as his more successful rival ch Green' Monarch, a little lacking in back ribs, slightly narrow behind, but a most beautiful silver fawn, good proportions in length and back, and in spite of his slight tendency to be narrow behind (not so apparent, mind you, as in the objects of to-dav). an agile, active looking dog. and in general appearance amostperfect gentleman, in fact in the the latter respect he scored so tremendously over Monarch, as well as in head properties and coat, that the other's more substantial bone, more immense frame, and better hind-quarters, could never in my opinion counterbalance that high-class demeanor so apparent in my favorite; and never shall I forget the day when at one of the Crystal Palace shows in 1874, Green' Monarch and he came together for a special under the Rev Pearce. It was a grand sight, for these two were about the finest specimens, not only of Mastiffs, but of any breed that have yet appeared (of course the St Bernards Plinlimnion, Sir Bedivere and Watch would receive reference, but then they have a decided advantage in coat and color), and when the judge,after a long deliberation, decided in favor of Monarch, I felt quite gulpy, in spite of Mr Green being a great friend of mine. Monarch, as is well known, was an enormous dog, with immense bone, good strong pasterns, and had close feet, very compactly built, with powerful back ribs strong loin, and graceful hindquarters, and for so immense a dog I think he scored over Plinlimnion in being more compact, sturdier, and also more proportionate.

Mr Green' Monarch - see at right 1st row, reportedly 177 lb & 33 1/2 i at shoulder - was very coarse in texture of coat, and his head had not that beautiful finish of Granby, his ears being also thick and large - all these more common properties he probably got from his sire, Mr Nichols’ Hercules, though however such a grand dog could have been produced out of the miserable specimen is beyond comprehension. There is no harm in speaking of her now, for she and her son have long since joined their ancestors. In color Monarch' dam Nelly - Martorells Sultan' dau Marguerite ex Bill Georges Charley' son Faust - was a deep red, with some suspicious black shadings, which at once suggested an outcross of Bloodhound, and in size she was about the same as the latter; her muzzle was long and pointed, skull narrow, and ears, oh, dear! what aprons; and what a savage devil. She would have torn anyone to pieces, yet in this respect her son was as gentle as she was ferocious; he also had a characteristic which I have never yet met with in any other dog, viz, if anyone would put the tips of their fingers in his mouth he would nibble away at the nails until not a particle would remain. It was very comical to see this huge dog, sitting on his bench, nibbling away at a man' nails, with a fervor which deserved a better result. Dear old chap. He has found that peace and rest I hope which his gentleness and kindness so deserved. But I am transgressing to a dreadful extent and must return to the question of ‘heads'. Bar the large ears, where is a better head or expression to be found than those of the two sisters, Mrs Rawlinson' Duchess and Mr Curtis' Countess ? Also Mr Hanbury' Queen, her son Wolsey, and later, that lovely little bitch Elaine, and again, Mr Alston' Colonel. Then for expression, there is no dog to-day who could surpass old Turk, though it was not as short and blunt as one would have wished.

Mention of Turk reminds me of another grand-headed one in his son, Robinson' Punch. Rajah' name should of course come in here, and though he is undoubtedly one of the pillars of the Stud-Book, I am abandoned enough to proclaim my dislike for him. No one can deny Rajah - see below at right, reportedly weighing 140 lb against his son Wolsey - weighing 136 lb and a height of 30 1/2 i, and Taurus 31 i & 135 lb - was exceedingly small to begin with; his face, though short, square and all that, was inanimate and expressionless, and as he had no other properties, unless a pigmy in stature can lay claim to fine physique. I don't think he was warranted in holding the position on the bench he did.' -

Author of the articles was British journalist Mr Reginald Frederick Mayhew b '62, better known as Chappie, reportedly ‘a judge and critic of Fox Terriers almost without equal.’ – After relocating to Clifton Staten Island US, both Mayhew and his wife Elizabeth, of Fox Hills prefix, made an indelible impression on the east coast dog scene as breeders, exhibitors, and primarily as one of the first internationally popular husband and wife judging teams. They judged every major Terrier specialty in addition to a combined total of fifteen Westminster assignments over the years. In 1928 Mrs Elizabeth Beatrice Mayhew née Robb, of Forest Hills NY, becomes the first woman to have a voice in deciding Best In Show, as one of a panel of five judges making the decision. Note - Given his year of birth 1862 Mr Mayhew' descriptions about the 1870s Mastiffs might be taken to with a grain of salt. Note - Mr Henry Philip Mayhew 1812-87 was one of the co-founders of the satirical and humorous magazine Punch in 1841, but currently unknown if there's a familiar connection.

The ‘Mr Exley' highly esteemed by Mr Wm Wade refers to Mr Robert Exley 36-05, worsted spinner of The Grange Horsforth via Leeds & 2 New Exchange Bradford. He owned Victor out of Norma - Mr Webb’ Poppett x ch Turk - sired by Lion – Mr Hanbury' Peeress x Mr Hanbury’ Prince -. Mr Exley’ Victor sired 1) Mr Alston' famous ch Colonel' dam Jennette owned by Colonel John James Mellor ’30-16, cotton manufacturer of The Woodland Whitefield nr Manchester; 2) Mr F Heinzmann' Tiger b ’73 out of ch Turk’ sis Beldam; and 3) Mr Joseph Royle' Bosco b ‘78 out of Mr Exley’ Venus (by Mr Green' ch Monarch). Quote Leeds Mercury dd 20 August 1872 – ‘Non-sporting classes Mastiff - silver cup Victor owned by Mr Robert Exley of Bradford (this splendid animal is marked in the catalogue at 1,000 guineas).' - Mr Robt Exley owned Mr Chas H Masons ch Salisbury’ son Hero II too.

Forest & Stream Oct. 6, 1887 mentions the following re Mr E H Moore’ Ilford Caution – ‘It is a matter of deep regret that the discussion of Messrs Wade and Wynn has run so much to the merits of one particular dog, Mr Wade setting all his faults in exaggerated lines before the public and giving place to none of his good points, thus giving, we believe unintentionally, a false impression of that same dog to the general public. We refer to Mr E H Moore' Ilford Caution. Whatever may be a man' opinion of this dog, we submit that the expressions 'disgusting-looking brute' and ‘snub-nosed beast’ are not properly applicable, and savor more of violent prejudice than calm judgment. It must certainly be very discouraging to Mr Moore to purchase, and import a dog like Caution and then to have him assailed in the newspapers by a man – ed Mr Wm Wade - who views him from one standpoint only. It must certainly be very depressing to intending importers to see Mr Moore' efforts so inconsiderately dealt with.’ - written by ‘X‘ of N Y.


Imperial Chancellor. - see centre – ‘Editor Forest and Stream: Your correspondent, Mr Marshall, errs in imagining himself to be the importer of Imperial Chancellor. Mr Marshall is the purchaser not the importer. Kindly allow me space to reply to his statement: - ‘So far as I am able to ascertain Chancellor is by far the largest and most powerful of the Crown Prince family. He has the most robust body I ever saw on a dog.' - I do not object to Mr Marshall giving his new purchase a free ad but as I own a Crown Prince dog, champion Ilford Caution, I would like to know where Imperial Chancellor beats him in size except about inches in length of legs and muzzle. I examined and measured Chancellor very carefully the past summer. Caution beats him 1 in. in girth of skull, the same in muzzle, 1 in. in forearm, and also in chest, ears and in hocks. Mr Marshall further quotes from a letter from Mr Wade, where he says, - 'Chancellor has better hocks than any other Crown Prince dog that ever came over here.' - Perhaps Mr Wade has not seen them all. There is one in Boston miles ahead of Chancellor in Mastiff points, and if I remember rightly both Debonair and Prince Waldemar are very much more truly formed in hocks. It is on record that Imperial Chancellor was a cow-hocked dog when in England, and it seems to me that defective limbs in Liverpool would also be detective limbs in New York. Sea air is very invigorating, but I have never known it to straighten the crooked.’ - E H Moore, Melrose Mass.


Editor Forest and Stream: Your are wrongly informed. I imported Imperial Chancellor about a year ago, and have recently sold him to Mr C C Marshall.’ - Ashmont kennels Boston, Mass. [The mistake of crediting to Mr Marshall the importation of Imperial Chancellor was made in the absence ot the editor of this department.] - ‘Editor Forest and Stream: I find that owing to a misunderstanding I misquoted Mr Wade, and hence a mistake appears in your note in regard to Imperial Chancellor in your issue of Dec 1. I understand Mr Wade' declaration was not that Chancellor is the best hocked dog of the Crown Prince strain, but that he is one of the three or four Crown Prince dogs imported here that did not call for the severest criticism in regard to hocks. It is also an error to state that I imported Chancellor; that honor belongs to Dr J Frank Perry of Boston.’ - Charles C Marshall, New York Dec 5 ‘87.


Funnily, neither Mr Chas Marshall nor Mr E H Moore mention their respective dogs, ie Imperial Chancellor & Ilford Caution, were siblings! Bred by Mr Richard Cook dd May ’83 out of ch Cambrian Princess’ sis Ilford Claudia sired by ch Crown Prince. Imperial Chancellor was owned by Dr Chas A Lougest of Liverpool until ’87; he was regularly campaigned and got a/o in ’85 1st at Sheffield; in ’86 1st prizes at Stalybridge & Birkenhead; and in ’87 1st at Liverpool. Mr Mark Beaufoy judged at Warwick ’86 and wrote – ‘Imperial Chancellor is a big dog with a good body, but his head is very houndy; in my opinion the worst fault possible in a Mastiff, his ears very heavy, and his hind action being very faulty.’ – At Birmingham ’85 – ‘Imperial Chancellor is an immense dog, with plenty of bone, but coarse in the ear, general want of symmetry, &c, little cow-hocked.’ – Dr J S Turner – ‘Imperial Chancellor vhc is a very large dog, has a big skull, long muzzle, fairly square at the end, but he is nipped in under the eyes, very large ears which hang with a curl, and thus give him a Bloodhoundy type to his head; he is badly cow-hocked, and moves in a very ungainly manner.’ – A Kennel Gazette advert dd Dec ’86 reports Imperial Chancellor’ weight at 12 st 7 lb, which is exactly matching his brother Ilford Caution’ weight (175 lb) for 31i at shoulder according to Mr Chas Mason’ book ‘Our Prize Dogs’.


Above at right – Photograph of Ilford Caution’ son Melrose Prince, full brother to Chas C Cook’ ch Moses b Feb ’87 & Chas E Wallack’ ch Merlin b May ’88. Melrose Prince was owned by Mr P H Durkee who married in 1915 the divorcee Mrs George Lorillard Ronalds (member of the Lorillard family of tobacco fame) and settled at 37 Fifth Avenue NY. He was a member of the Union Brook & the South Side Sportsmen’ Clubs and lived up to an age of 92 years (d Jan ’31).

At left - From the Illustrated London News June 1865 - The International Dog Show at the Agricultural Hall Islington: Arrival of Dogs, a/o the Captain Garniers Lion' son Governor led by his breeder/owner MR T H V Lukey including cane; - at right - article re the Islington Dog Show June '65 by Mr Loftus Leigh Pemberton, breeder of Wolf 2353 - Pemberton' Why Not ex Mr Bill George' Tiger. He writes a/o – ‘I was not at first much surprised by the selections of Mr Hanbury’ Duchess and Mr Hanbury’ Prince for the 1st and 2nd prize dogs. Duchess has carried off many prizes; my colleague and I had given her the 1st prize at the show held last year by the Agricultural Company; and Prince, if in healthy condition, I would this year have chosen in priority to his dam (Duchess), for he is a truer type of the English Mastiff than she is, and he takes after his sire (Mr Lukey’ Governor) in his head, which is a magnificent one, and a point in which she rather fails. But upon examination I found that Prince was mangy; every leg so red and angry with inflammation, and the skin so blutchey, that the dog was quite unfit for exhibition.’ - and - ‘I will only add that No 343 (Druid), another dog belonging to the H R H The Prince of Wales, and a very fine animal, 8 months old, was apparently suffering from distemper. Both eyes were choked up with mucus, and I should think that his keepers were hardly prudent in bringing him in that condition to such a place.’ -

From ‘The Sportsman' May 4th 1871 – Mastiffs and their breeding to the Editor of The Field. Sir, - I have been requested by several persons, Mastiff breeders to publish the particulars of my reading and experience on the subject of Mastiffs and their breeding. The results has been the accompanying paper, which, should you be able to find space for it, may possibly prove of interest to those of your readers who are admirers of this class of dogs. The Breeder of Governor’ sire - ed Captain John Garnier -.


Some excerpts from Captain Garnier' extensive letter – ‘In former days, however, I came across many an animal which well answered to the type of Vandyke’ Mastiff, and notably those of Mr Lukey. I well remember his two dogs, Bruce and Bell, some fifteen years ago. Bruce was a brindled dog with a black head, and stood about 31i at the shoulder, or rather under, weighing about 100 lb. He was not so muscular dog as Mr Lukey’ present dog Baron but was nevertheless a remarkably deep, lengthy animal with a grand head, not square but full and round. But what struck me about all Mr Lukey’ dogs were their broad and heavy, but not short, muzzles. They formed the most decided feature of their heads, and strongly recalled to my mind at the time the epithet by which the Romans distinguished this breed, ‘the broad-mouthed dogs of Britain’.


Bell was an animal of the same character as Bruce, but was more muscular, and had half-erect ears and a somewhat broader muzzle. Wallace, a silver fawn and uncle of Bruce, stood 33i at the shoulders, and at eighteen months, just before he died, weighed not less than 180 lb. Another Wallace, a son of Bruce, figures in ‘Stonehenge’ on the Dog. One point I noticed in Mr Lukey’ breed was that the under edge of the lower jaw was deeply convex, giving a depth of jaw, which point is not so marked in more modern dogs. Besides these, I remember two grand dogs which Bill George had in 1855. They were very old, and he could never obtain any stock from them. The dog stood over 33i at the shoulder, but was all to pieces when I saw him. The bitch, however, still retained her grand muscular development and broad flat loin. She stood 30 1/2i at the shoulders, with remarkable length and depth of body, measuring round the chest 40i. Her head also was round and ful, and her muzzle broad and blunt, but with hardly such heavy flews as I have seen in some dogs.


About this time I bought of Bill George a pair of Mastiffs whose produce, by good luck, afterwards turned out some of the finest specimens of the breed. The dog was one of a pair of Lyme Hall Mastiffs, bought by Bill George at Tattersalls. He was a different stamp of dog to the present Lyme breed. He stood 30 1/2i at the shoulders, with length of body and good muscular shoulders and loin, but was slightly deficient in depth of bodyand breadth of forehead; and from the peculiar forward lay of his small ears, and from his produce, I have since suspected a remote dash of Boarhound in him. The bitch was obtained by Bill George from a dealer in Leadenhall market. Nothing was known of her pedigree, but I am as convinced of its purity as I am doubtful of that of the dog. There was nothi,ng striking about her. She was old, her shoulders a trifle flat, and she had a grey muzzle, but withal stood 29i at the shoulder, had a broad round head, good loin, and deep lengthy frame. From crossing these dogs with various strains I was easily able to analyse their produce and I found in them two different types – one due to the dog, very tall, but a little short in the body and high on the leg, while their heads were slightly deficient in breadth; the other due to the bitch, equally tall, but deep, lengthy and muscular, with broad massive heads and muzzles. Some of these latter stood 33i at the shoulder, and by the time they were two years old weighed upwards 180 lb. They had invariably a fifth toe on each hind leg, which formed an integral portion of their feet. By bad management, I was only able to bring a somewhat indifferent specimen with me on my return to England from America, a badly reared animal, who nevertheless stood 31i at the shoulder an weighed 170 lb. This dog was the sire of Governor and Harold, by Mr Lukey’ bitch Countess, and so certain was I of the vast size of the breed in him, that I stated beforehand, much to Mr Lukey’ incredulity, that the produce would be dogs standing 33i at the shoulder – the resut being that both Governor and his brother Harold were fully that height. In choosing the whelps, Mr Lukey retained for himself the best marked one, an animal that took after the lighter of the two strains that existed in the sire; for Governor, grand dog and perfect Mastiff as he was, compared to most others of the breed, was nevertheless shorter in the body, higher on the leg, and with less muscular development than Harold, while his head, large as it was, barely measured as much round as did his brother Harold. I, who went by the development of the fifth toe, chose Harold, a dog which combined all the best points ecept colour of both strains, and was a perfect reproduction on a larger scale of his dam Countess. His breast at 10 months standing up measured 13i across, with a girth of 41i, and he weighed in moderate condition 140 lb, and at 12 months 160 lb. - - - I will briefly compare some of the best-known dogs of the present day. Baron and King are direct descendants of Mr Lukey’ old breed, and are undoubtedly the most perfect animals known to the pubic. The bull strain in them shows itself in their squareness of head and shortness in muzzle.

These are faults on the right side, and for other reasons I do not think the bull cross need to be objected to, except in one particular: the full prominent eye produced by it robs the dog of that dignity and gravity of expression which is a characteristic of the pure breed. The muzzle of King and Baron are both blunt, and both their muzzles and forehead are full and broad. Both are deep muscular dogs, but Baron is the lengthier, and I prefer him somewhat to his father, except as regards colouring? Both dogs, however, are very deficient in size.


That very handsome dog, Turk, shows many of the characteristics of his sire King. His muscular development is excellent, and he has more length than King. On the other hand, he is somewhat deficient in depth and weight of body, his limbs are too light, and his head would be better if it was a trifle larger, and his muzzle blunter. These defects, though not very marked, spring from his dam Hilda, who, though large, is vere deficient in Mastiff properties, and her faults are more visible in his progenybthan in Turk himself. This, however, arises from want of suitable mating, as, with the size in his blood, he ought, with a bitch of Baron or Tiger strains, to get animals second to none.

Druid and his brother Peveril - see at left - have more of the character of the old breed than the above dogs, as one might expect from the absence of the bull cross, and from the fact that they are the immediate descendants of Mr Lukey’ old breed. Both have broad, heavy, and blunt muzzles, and their heads are round and not square – Peveril’ head, in all but colour, being nearly perfect. Druid, also, has capital depth of body and massive limbs. The skins of both are loose, and their size is quite that of the old breed. On the other hand, they are full of faults. Peveril wants depth, length and weight of body, and is utterly deficient in muscular development, and his colour is as ugky as it could well be; whilst Druid is almost equally deficient in muscle, and his otherwise good head is spoilt by the narrowness of his forehead. Without, however, further comparisons of existing dogs, it is evident that they one and all fall short of the dogs of ten or twenty years ago. The best headed and most muscular are deficient in size, and the larger ones are deficient in substance or in breadth of head, &c, and the question for breeders therefore is - How can they improve the breed? ‘ -


Below - The sequel of Captain Garnier’ article published in The Field abouth a month later. Quite blurry, but of interest for those who like the Mastiff matters of the pre- Kennel Club era.

A very rare article dd 1877 written by Mr Harry de Spencer Kingdon 1816-03, nicknamed the Prince of ‘cranks’ and well-known for pompous contents of self-glorification; in the 2nd column he mentions a/o 'Mr Hanbury with his magnificent Prince - see above Mr Hanbury' Prince' colour drawing of Mr Hanbury' Prince b '62 - Bill Georges Tiger ch Duchess ex Mr Lukey' Governor - by Mr Edwin Holt and in No 20 of the tableau at right - This website contains a page dedicated to Mr Kingdon; it includes a/o a photograph of his 'Alp'. - The insert dd 1876 presents a tableau of show winners at Leipzig Germany incl a Mastiff, arguably entered by an Englishman, perhaps Mr C T Harris with his ch The Shah.

Mr Hanbury’ reply re Mr Kingdon’ article ‘The Old English Mastiff’ is one of the very few times he contributed in newspapers whatsoever. Mr Kingdon’ Alp sired by Hanbury Prince produced Mr Hodge’ Charlie; the latter, mated to ch Turk’ maternal aunt Slut, produced Empress owned by the Wynnes of Scalford who mated her to Mr Field’ ch King which in turn gave the Wynnes’ Peeress. - At right – Tableau of prize winners at the Kennel Club Show dd July ’77, incl Duchess 2366 – see lying below tail of St Bernard - b Dec ’71 & bred by Mr James Morris of Oswestry out of old Flora – supposed to be Lyme Hall breed - ex ch Turk’ son Sultan. Duchess, owned by Mr C Curtis of Scarborough, was sibling to ch The Emperor’ dam Mrs Rawlinson’ ch Countess.

At left – Mr Kingdon' reply at Mr Hanbury' letter dd July 21th 1877 in a period of time Mr Kingdon almost completely disappeared from the Mastiff front whereas Mr Hanbury has bred a range of quality Mastiffs, ie champions Duchess, Queen, Rajah, Taurus, and Wolsey; not to forget ch Wolsey’ brother Prince who sired Mr Mark Beaufoy’ ch Beau. So no reason for Mr Hanbury to be jealous of Mr Kingdon' kennels. – At right - Mrs Idonca Stopford b '62 of Ferney Blackrock Co Cork Ireland, Vice President of the Ladies Kennel Association, Mastiff breeder/exhibitor and member of the Northern Mastiff Club founded in 1894 under the Presidency of Mr Wm Watts of Wavertree nr Liverpool; Mrs Stopford purchased a/o ch Constable’ dau Carshalton Alice bred by Mr W K Taunton, and Gipsey bred by Mr Robt Leadbetter.

Article dd March ‘83 by Dr William Gordon Stables 1840-10 Scottish-born medical doctor in the Royal Navy and a prolific author of adventure fiction, primarily for boys. He wrote over 130 books, a/o The Dog - From Puppyhood to Age publ ‘93, and Our Friend the Dog publ ’03. The dog winner King Canute was brother to Mrs Geo Willins’ ch Cambrian Princess, 2nd Mr J W Boyce’ Leo VII was bred by Mr G W Nicholl out of Nichols Prince’ dau Maida sired by the breeder’ Turk, & 3rd Mr E Nichols’ Goth out of Druid III’ dau Boomah sired by ch Beau; Dr Turner’ Lady Gladys out of ch Rajah' dau The Lady Rowena ex ch Crown Prince, and Mr Joseph Royle’ Crown Princess out of ch Colonel’ dau Negress sired by ch Crown Prince.

At left - Report about the thirty-ninth show of the Kennel Club held on October 23, 24 & 25 1894 at the Crystal Palace – see centre - Sydenham. The 1302 exhibits were about 300 in excess of the KC spring meeting. The then nineteen months old Mastiff Peter Piper, owned by his breeder Mr H G Woolmore of Leyton, was purchased by the wealthy Mancunian pork butcher Mr Joseph Royle soon. As known ch Peter Piper became Crufts cc winner four times in a row, but it was his sire Tom Bowling - ch Victor Hugo' dau ch Jubilee Beauty ex Orlando II' son ch Ogilvie - who put his stamp upon Mastiff breeding a/o along his sons Mark Antony & Mellnotte.

At left – Lidgett Conqueror at 2 ½ y old b Oct ’12 & bred by Mr Edgar Allen - out of Imperial Tim’ dau Lady Protector sired by ch Lidgett Viscount – and owned by Mrs T Davies of Lidgett kennels Hucknall – Notts, who purchased from Mr Brookes ch Lidgett Viscount' dam Widmere Lady. She bred a brindle with the Hebrew name ‘Caleb’ b ‘11 out of Lidgett Bess sired by ch Lidgett Viscount’ sire Brindled Prince, and owned by Mrs E Deerr. Lidgett Conqueror got two reserve ccs under Lt-Col Z Walker, ie at Crufts '14 and at Birmingham ‘15. - At right – Mastiffs, owned by Mr Robert Folger Wescott Conquest and Mrs Rosamund Alys Conquest née Acworth of Bannut Tree Castlemorton, including 2nd & 3rd from r - ch King Baldur' parents, ie Young John Bull, and ch Young Mary Bull. They also owned ch Miss Bull and ch Woden’ sire Collyhurst Squire. Their then two-year-old son George Robert Acworth Conquest became a well known historian and poet, most notable for his influential works on Soviet history including The Great Terror: Stalin's Purges of the 1930s (1968). He was a longtime research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He wrote more than a dozen books on the Soviet Union. - The article’ author Mrs Charlotte - aka Carlo – F C Clarke b ‘60-36 and her husband Mr Septimus Clarke owned the famous Mersham kennels of Bulldogs, Pekes, &c

Dd Nov 5th '19 - 'The publication of the photographs of Mrs Conquest' beautiful Mastiffs has brought us a most interesting letter from a gentleman in Scotland, who, noting our remarks that we feared the breed was in danger of extinction, tells us of his brother’ kennels in the Transvaal. We shall hope to publish the photograph of these dogs, which extracts from the letter, in our next issue. – Mrs Carlo F C Clarke. - At left dd Nov '19 - Mr James Allen Bailey emigrated from Ardrossan North Ayrshire to Sterkfontein nr Johannesburg and married in ‘84 Jacquomena Magdalena Susanna, youngest daughter of Gerrit P L Luttring Hekpoort Transvaal. - At right dd Sept ’21 - 'Little Wooley' Guardian at Altrincham show – ed nr Manchester -. A little boy exceedingly proud of his prize-winning Mastiff.' Unknown if there's a connection with Mrs F Woolley, of Perry Mastiff kennels Perry Bar Birmingham, who owned a/o owned ch Deleval Alftruda b '34 – Deleval Paladin' dau Deleval Richilda ex ch Uther Penarvon' son The Druid.

Dd Sept ‘22 - insert above - Mrs Evans’ ch Prince b 24 - out of Ashenhurst Duke' dau Jersey Queen sired by Penkhull Lady' son Jersey Lion Lion - The 34i tall ch Prince got the Crufts cc ’25 under Mr Robt Leadbetter who said he had not seen so good a specimen for years; - insert below - 86 Hatton Garden, the London city address of the OEMC Secretary Mr Walter Kelsey Taunton 1844-27 who puts importance that ‘any error in pedigrees should be corrected’ when any out-cross is resorted to, either to counteract excessive inbreeding or to accentuate certain points.

Two well-documented corner stones of Mastiff breeding in the 1920s presented in less known illustrations. At left – photograph of 9m old ch Havengore Bill’ sire ch Master Beowulf b March '20 publ Dec ’21; centre - ch Master Beowulf' photo publ Feb '23 on the occasion of winning the Crufts cc under the well-known breeder Mr A W Lucas; at right – ch Ashenhurst Bernicea b Feb '21 - photo publ March ’23 on the occasion of winning the Manchester cc under Mr Robt Leadbetter. Bernicea was purchased by Messrs Bob Thomas & C R Oliver and became the foundation of the famous Menai stock.


Bernicea’ grand-daughter Menai Stella b July '28 – ch Hellingly Joseph’ paternal half sis Menai Maida ex Menai Anglesea - was sold by them after she had made a name for herself - in '29 cc at Leeds under Mr J G Joice, res ccs at Crystal Palace under Mr Croxton Smith & at Birmingham under Mr C Houlker, and finally in '30 a 3rd res cc at Richmond under Mr Walker Hall -. Stella changed hands for £300 to Miss Elizabeth Goodrich Stillman of Kenridge kennels US. Her brother Eliot Wight Stillman imported the Hellingly Caractacus b March '28 & bred by Cleveland breeder Mr Herbert Cook out of ch King Baldur' dau Princess Bunty ex ch Cleveland Premier; unfortunately Mr Stillman died Nov '28 in an accident at Seligman nr Las Vegas Arizona aged only 19. Quote - 'Eliot Stillman of New York was killed and Francis Bourn Hayne, of the Nogales Herald, escaped injury when, heading to Santa Barbara, Hayne' small touring car left the highway near here yesterday and overturned, pinning the pair beneath it, it was learned today.' -

At left – Cadwallader b May ’23 bred/owned by Miss Margaret Penelope Allin b '03 of Welford House 51 Bristol road Keynsham Somerset - out of ch Weland’ dau Portia ex Ashenhurst Duke – photograph dd May ’24 - see also Miscellanea One No 55 - Cadwallader got the res cc at the KC Crystal Palace show '24 under Mr F H Cleminson cc ch Master Beowulf -; - centre – ch Cleveland Premier’ maternal uncle Border Chief b March ‘22 bred by Cleveland breeder Mr George Cook of Middlesbrough – out of Penwortham Fanny ex Adamite – and owned by Dr Arthur Fothergill b '84 Middlesbrough, of 135 Breakspears Road Brockley London - photo dd May ’24 – Border Chief got the Crufts '24 res cc under Mr George Cook cc ch Master Beowulf -; - at right – Cadwallader’ paternal half brother ch Ashenhurst Cedric – ch Boadicea ex Ashenhurst Duke – photo dd June ’25 – Mr John Illingworth’ Cedric got eight ccs and sired two champions, ie Menai Juno and ch Superbus.

At left - ch Hellingly Ajax’ maternal grandsire Westcroft Blaise b Feb ‘24 & bred by Mrs Constance Kennett - out of ch King Baldur' dau ch Westcroft Cleopatra ex Count Willington’ son Adamas - photo Feb '25; - centre - once again Dr Arthur Fothhergill’ Border Chief b '22 – photo July ’25; - at right - ch Superbus’ brother King Agrippa b Oct ‘24 & bred by Dermot breeder Mrs Baggaley - out of ch King Baldur' dau Dermot Diana sired by ch Ashenhurst Cedric - and owned by Mr Eric Nolan b ’91 who m '24 Miss Evelyn Mildred Winslow of Staplehurst Kent - photo dd Oct ’26 - King Agrippa got a 3rd Open at Crystal Palace '26 - cc ch Havengore Bill, res cc Menai Anglesea - after which he changed hands to Mr Wm H Calcott of Kenilworth nr Coventry.

Website since January 12th 2013

Copyright © All Rights Reserved